this is a lousy economy. 1.3% gdp growth is lousy, and yet on wednesday night, mitt romney said again -- and by the way, barack obama backs up his claim that either one of them will create 12 million jobs in four years. that is 3 million jobs a year or 250,000 jobs a month. we got 114. at 3% economic growth, there is not an economist in this country who thinks it will be higher than 3% in 2013, 3% in 2014 and 3% in 2015. what does mitt romney think of that? >> i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i've never talked to the campaign. i had nothing to do with the romney -- i just believed this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero. you're a hero to businesspeople in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. let's just do it right now and you c you can go back to what you say. you did not cook the books, did you? >> i should have put a question mark behind it. >> so you believe it would have been seen as more of a provocative statemen